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in the fiscal cliff diminishes. >> i don't think there is a grand bargain but hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't change tax cuts in day, middle income earners will owe extra by the end of the year and they will cut back on auto industry, apparel and entertainment. >> once they cut back on that, that will be dramatic. >> reporter: retailers support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downturn intensifies, those jobs are at risk. >> if retailers stop creating jobs, the economy as a whole stops creating jobs. >> reporter: the weight is excruciating for some and president obama left them $200 billion apart. >> the president was $200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion higher on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers will likely take on spending reform and tax cuts when the debate heats up. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. >>> a note was left by a suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in new york. more
." thank you. gregg: this lawmakers do not reach a deal with regard to the fiscal cliff cuts will go into the defense department. >> reporter: the whole package of spending cuts is $1.2 trillion, half to the defense department. the army, navy, air force marines would take equal cuts according to one analyst who says the impact on the military overall will be, quote, very serious. >> the pentagon and the departments are already in financial trouble, because there has already been a $480 billion cut that is being applied right now as we speak. to take another cut on top of that is devastating. >> reporter: it's not just the military itself that will take a hit, also the defense industry, defense contractors, private companies that do work for the pentagon. one democratic congressman in northern virginia whose district maybe hit the hardest by all of this says it could mean layoffs. >> the large defense contractors will probably be okay, they have significant cash reserves, most of them. the smaller contractors would have trouble getting their lines of credit extended, trouble keeping t
before averting the so-called fiscal cliff before the new year. president obama has cut short his hawaiian holiday. he'll come back to washington tomorrow night. nbc's danielle leigh is live. >> reporter: richard, good morning. there. is still a hope that a deal can get done, but confidence in that bargain with real reform has all but disappeared. americans are already taking a good hard look at their wallets, as confidence the country will avoid the fiscal cliff diminishes. >> i don't think there's going to be a grand bargain before the end of the year. there is hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't extend expiring tax cuts in just days, middle income owners will owe uncle sam about $2,000 extra a year. retailers will cut back in automotive, apparel and entertainment. >> once people begin to pull back on that, the effect will be dramatic. >> reporter: the national retailers association said retailer its support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downward turn intensifies. for those, the wait is excruciating. president obama visited troops in hawaii over christmas
. >>> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. the deadline is only six days away. the president plans to leave hawaii today and head back to washington to meet with lawmakers. where heed he and his wife, michelle, spent christmas visiting u.s. troops and their families in hawaii. to beat the january 1st deadline senate majority leader harry reid is said to be crafting his own fiscal package. it would extend the bush era tax cuts for households making less than $250,000, extend long-term unemployment, short-term spending cuts, and make a scheduled drop in medicare reimbursement to doctors. house speaker john boehner said they've had no communication with senator reid. >>> the exconwho ambushed and killed two volunteer firefighters in upstate new york may have murdered his sister. her body was found yesterday, and police say william spamglor had the same kind of military rifle used in the connecticut school massacre. he left behind a chilling note. >> reporter: the christmas eve fire in western new york burned seven homes to the ground, but police say
. >> we should take social security off the table for the current phy fiscal cliff. >> do not cut social security. tom: many democrats pushing to keep social security off of the table in debt talks, we learn that the program is $48 billion in the hole for 2012, and small business authority barry sloan said that the entitlement programs are what got this country in this mess in the first place. i don't think that people pay attention to that. in the greenspan e they bumped up payroll taxes for excess money going in. about this is first time there are fewer people putting in than taking out. so government has to write a check. >> it is unfortunate, the lockbox was raided. there is nothing wrong with entitlement programs, but it is the growth of those programs that are problematic. with respect to social security, we're all living longer, people need to work a little bit longer, and social security will be there for many generations if we're prudent about it 9. tom: this is the third rail, even president bush could not get social security reform done, don't touch it, is the message in wor w
cliff, tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect next year. if lawmakers don't reach a deal to avoid it, consumers could see higher taxes eating into their paychecks. even online sales suffered. compared to past years of double-digit growth, this year, online holiday sales rose only about 8%, compared to nearly 16% last year. overall, holiday spending accounts for up to 30% of retailers' annual sales, so the disappointing season is a concern for an economy struggling to recover. >> consumers need to have more confidence. consumers need to feel that their jobs are secure. it's not an ideal situation. it's more of a conservative, cautious time. and companies are managing carefully, consumers are spending carefully. >> reporter: retailers are now hoping to lure consumers with deep discounts of 75% to 80% off in some cases as they try to salvage profits from this lackluster holiday shopping season. jim. >> axelrod: so, elaine, this is the first set of holiday shopping numbers that we've seen. any chance that they'll be revised as we get more data in? >> reporter: absolutely. the
. >>> aloha means good-bye. president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will ge
year's eve midnight hour when tax hikes and budget cuts swoop down from the fiscal cliff. the two senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell are work on a stopgap bill. >> at some point, the negotiating process, it appears that there are things that stop us from moving forward. i hope we are not there but we are getting close. >> i want everyone to know i am willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: the legislation would prevent a tax increase for reveille 98% of the -- for roughly 98% of workers extend unemployment benefits and prevent a huge cut in payments to medicare doctors. >> we should introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are and there should an up or down vote. >> reporter: if they reach a deal it won't pass congress necessarily by monday night. if it doesn't every body income tax also go up. average family would pay an extra $3446 more in 2013. and farm programs would expire. potentially doubling the price of milk. and if congress doesn't pass a new bill. >> we will come back with a new congress in janua
. if lawmakers do not reach a fiscal cliff agreement, you could see your taxes skyrocket and deep spending cuts kick in. major sticking points, entitlements and tax increases. house republicans have ended their meetings for the night. we'll find out tomorrow whether vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell have made any progress in their talks. any deal would have to get enough votes to pass the senate and the house. >>> president obama says sandy hook school shooting was the worst day of his presidency. americans will have to explore their own feelings when his gun law reform proposals come out next year. >> the question then becomes, whether we are actually shook up enough by what happened here that it does not just become another one of these routine episodes where it gets a lot of attention for a couple of weeks and then it drifts away. it certainly won't feel like that to me. >> the president says the law he's pushing will address assault style rifles, high capacity magazines and background checks. >>> the fiscal cliff, it's not the only deadline pressing on congress. a five-year farm
to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff. it would keep tax cuts for the making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefit and with the clock ticking delay dramatic spending cuts until next year. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward the package to prevent tax hike on middle class americans protects unemployment surance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for work on growth and deficit reduction. that is an achievable goal. >> today's meeting is the first with the president since november 16. sign for republicans that mr. obama has not really been pushing that hard for a deal. >> we need presidential leadership on in the just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package tha
start. early numbers point to a tough season. tracy: a nice and shiny fiscal cliff. president obama cut his vacation short. we are tracking where it is headed next. we are expecting negotiations to continue tomorrow. there is talk now that that may not happen. time to head down to the new york stock exchange with nicole petallides. nicole: merry christmas to everybody. the vix, the fear index, has been to the upside. whether or not washington will solve the worries about the so-called fiscal cliff approaching quickly. here is a look at the dow. 13,100 even. most of the dow components are under pressure. hewlett-packard doing well and bank of america in the financial round. it really is being laid upon by the retailers. i no adam shapiro will add on to that. there is a look at some movers. michael cores down over 6%. tracy: i was in the balls this weekend. lori: crowded theater not like i thought it would be. adam shapiro in the newsroom with the details. i thought it was way busier last year than it was this weekend. >> no. here are some numbers. for the period of october to eight and d
obama's cutting his hawaii vacation short, it turns out, to take on the fiscal cliff and crisis in washington. >>> also we're keeping an eye on new violence in syria. one of the regime's highest-ranking generals has actually switched sides. >>> plus, a newspaper actually lists the names and addresses of folks who hold gun permits. is that right or wrong? it's all "happening now." kelly: welcome, everyone. first, tracking a powerful winter storm moving across the one right now -- country right now, this hour, threatening travel plans for thousands of americans just trying to get home after the holidays. i'm kelly wright in for jon scott. jamie: i'm jamie colby, and patience is definitely going to pay this holiday day. the massive storm already blamed for at least three deaths down south, and it spawned more than 30 tornadoes, very unusual for this time of year, across four gulf states. take a look at. >> oh, my
would be spent on eliminating the fiscal cliff automatic spending cuts and extending unemployment checks. is it true not a dial would go to cutting the real problem, the debt and deficit? >> yeah. in one scenario that is absolutely the case. we shouldn't actually be surprised. it has been clear at least for a short amount of time that this hasn't been the goal of these discussions. i mean for all the talk about deficit reduction and despite the fact that this began as an effort to rein in spending after the 2010 elections, it is clear democrats in the house and senate, i would argue the president, haven't been serious about long-term spending cuts. gregg: maybe they're not serious, you know, they see a political benefit to literally going over the fiscal cliff? >> yeah. i think there's, obvious political incentive for the president to go over the fiscal cliff at this point. if you think where we will be in just two days, and you're the president of the united states looking back on this, taxes will have gone up, defense cuts his uniform military have warned against will begin to be imple
to deal with the long-term fiscal health of the country which is what the fiscal cliff was supposed to be an incentive to do, we're expecting now that this is just some measure to avert the fiscal cliff which is the tax hikes, the spending cuts, each if they deal with the spending cuts and we're waiting to see what the measure will look like. i know what a hard-hitting white house reporter you are. i want to know whether it's apple kay, pumpkin pie or peekan pie for the president and first family on christmas day. any news on the menu? >> reporter: no, i am still waiting to find out. maybe we'll find out a little later today. you don't frequently find out until they have just released it, until the white house releases the information so we'll be standing by to let you know how the president spends his holiday. nothing on his public schedule, but, you know, he normally visits with troops so we're expecting he might do that today here in hawaii. >> that would be a wonderful way to spend christmas day. brianna keilar live from honolulu, hawaii, thanks. >>> other stories in the news, a
obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season
cliff. if a deal is note struck, tax hikes and budget cuts will kick in. it seems unlikely they can write a comprehensive budget bill in time. they are thinking of a fall back plan. >> president obama is urging congress to focus. >> i'm optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. >> at the white house friday the president and congressional leaders spent some 70 minutes in a negotiating session and agreed to keep talking. >> it was constructive. >> it was constructive. >> i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> as snow fell on mostly deserted washington, two sides continued bargaining. if there some on deal, president obama wants smaller bill extending tax cuts making $250,000 or less and continuing unemployment benefits for millions that will lose them. >> i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote. >> we can still avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democratically controlled senate step forward to solve this problem and solve it now. >> frustration over the impasse runs from wall street
the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in wa
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as negotiations on capitol hill stall to avert falling over the fiscal cliff. senate leaders need to put something together to avoid tax increases for just about everyone and big spending cuts. a make or break deal comes down to a few lawmakers on the topic of taxes on the wealthy. >> it remains to be scene whether the republicans being driven by a very extreme group of house members will allow our economy to pert because of their desire to protect multimillionaires in this country. that's what it's going to boil down to. republican representative tom cole says he's confident that bainer can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the news on capitol hill. >> reporter: the news is a little better than it was earlier today. negotiations are still happening. there was a point toda
, if the bill is signed. >>> president obama is cutting short his holiday to resume fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house says the president will leave hawaii tonight on a red-eye to washington. lawmakers have less than a week to come up to agreement on how to avoid tax increases and spending cuts set to go into effect january. the first lady and the couple's two daughters will remain in hawaii for another 10 days. >>> for the first time starbucks' employees are being asked to write other than names on cups. the chain is asking employees in washington, d.c. to scribble the words "come together." as a message to lawmakers to settle the fiscal cliff. >> some spots blue skies, some parts grey clouds. >> interesting the colors you will see out there rainbow colors out there and we've had some in the south baylor, i'll show you one from mountain view, san jose we just had moderate rain roll through downtown, darker clouds off to the west there and that's what is going to head up into the santa cruz mountains shortly. one other advantage point, at least this side of san francisco, we are on th
. >>> president obama is cutting short his holiday to resume fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house says the president will leave hawaii tonight on a red-eye to washington. lawmakers have less than a week to come up to agreement on how to avoid tax increases and spending cuts set to go into effect january. the first lady and the couple's two daughters will remain in hawaii for another 10 days. >>> for the first time starbucks' employees are being asked to write other than names on cups. the chain is asking employees in washington, d.c. to scribble the words "come together." as a message to lawmakers to settle the fiscal cliff. >> some spots blue skies, some parts grey clouds. >> interesting the colors you will see out there rainbow colors out there and we've had some in the south baylor, i'll show you one from mountain view, san jose we just had moderate rain roll through downtown, darker clouds off to the west there and that's what is going to head up into the santa cruz mountains shortly. one other advantage point, at least this side of san francisco, we are on the embarcadero side at
are already taking a good hard look at their wallets as confidence the avoidance of the fiscal cliff diminishes. >> there is hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't oaks spire tax cuts in day, middle income earners will owe $2,000 extra a year. consumers are predicted to cut back in automotive, apparel and entertainment. >> once people decide to cut back on that, the effect is dramatic. >> reporter: the national retail federation says retailers support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downward trend intensify, those jobs would be at risk. >> if retailers stop creating job, the economy as a whole will stop creating jobs. >> reporter: the wait is e excruciating. president obama visited hawaii after talks on capitol hill. they were $200 billion apart on a deal. >> the president was $2200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decision ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers are saying they will likely take on tax reform and spending cuts again in the new y
is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> i'm don lemon with a look at your headlines. hillary clinton will spend new year's eve in a new york city hospital with a blood clot. doctors admitted the secretary of state sunday after a medical exam. the clot is believed to be related to the concussion
about leading to the fiscal cliff. you have the payroll tax cut that will expire, and nobody is talking about extending back. that is one that will give it the biggest bang for the buck economic allies. it helps americans the most. host: come out of the cliff are we cutting off, and how much will it -- and how much will we be going off? guest: you're staring at 1 cliff surely, that is 2% of every wage earner but to every $110,000 or so. that will have a pretty dramatic economic impact. beyond that, you'll be approaching a debt ceiling cliff which is another standoff. i assume that is where we will get most of the discussion on spending cuts. that seems to be absent from whatever deal they will be talking about. guest: another way to think about it -- if there is no deal at all, the $600 billion in cliff-related tax increases and spending cuts, if they have some kind of deal, we're talking about $200 billion or so. what we're talking about here is probably the wrong fiscal policy given the time. something in between that, maybe the minimum of $200 billion and the maximum of $600 billion.
off the fiscal cliff it will be a small package of some tax increases, some spending cuts, but it's not going to put the economy into a recession. so what i've been telling clients is let's just hold the line right here. let's not sell precipitously. let's wait until we see the outcome. but right now i think there's a real good chance that the outcome could be positive or will muddle our way through this significant problem. >> ifill: let me ask you a question which politicians kept bringing up during this last election which is the that the uncertainty is what makes people nervous in the business world. is this the kind of uncertainty they were talking about? >> it absolutely is. you mentioned before the retail sales numbers for this christmas season and the retail sales numbers for this christmas season were very poor, very soft. this is both individuals and individuals affecting companies making decisions and it's really largely driven by their significant uncertainty about what's going to be their tax rate in 2013. they're really postponing any spending and it clearly affects
cliff occurs. >> ifill: the across-the-board cuts. why does it work that way? >> in the event no deal is made and we do have the automatic cuts known as sequestration starting in january, federal employees face job loss and in some situations-- certainly in the department of defense-- but throughout the federal government people will be furloued, forced to take unaid days o, anywhere from 20 to 50 days. we really don't know. it depends in part on the agency and it depends in part on how much of the remainder of the fiscal year these cuts are squished into. so it's -- that's one bad situation. and then the so-called grand bargains and deals, many of those include provisions that would cut federal retirement benefits and extend the current pay freeze for an additional three years so that federal employees would go five full years witout anpai a justments. >> ifill: hugh johnson, if you were an investor or a business owner and you're watching wall street watch the fiscal cliff debate what are you telling them? are people nervous? >> well, even though i think there's been some positive th
? the fiscal cliff, still looming. spending cuts and tax hikes that could shove our economy into recession. and a deadline lawmakers ignored until the very last possible minute. live pictures now of the capitol. looks beautiful. man, but there's a lot of wrangling going on there. lawmakers are back up -- had their backs up against the wall right now. and as they try to find a plan that can pass congress. let's hope they do. cnn's chief white house correspondent is jessica yellin. she is following the negotiations, working very hard on this saturday. so jess, democrats and republicans are supposedly working on a plan, even as we speak. what do we know about it? >> reporter: well, we know, don, that it's the senate leaders that are hashing this out. and what they're looking to negotiate is a deal that would extend current low tax rates for middle income americans. we don't know the exact threshold levels. so would it be people who make $400,000 and less, would it be $250,000 and less. but something that would extend low rates and then increase them above. extend probably unemployment benefit
want to see a fiscal cliff deal. if it cuts the heck out of all kind of programs, then you can have a deal that is actually a real drag on the recovery as well. maybe not a recession, but a slower year than we otherwise would and slow growth. again, there's two percentage points in the payroll tax scheduled to increase on january 1. if you look at how negotiations are going, it looks like it's going to happen. the typical family's taxes by $1,000 over the course of a year. >> the final one, we are talking debt ceiling. you think the fiscal cliff thing is bad for the economy. you wait and see if they can't get the debt ceiling worked out. >> right. it's one thing to go over the fiscal cliff. that would be bad. we don't want to it happen. a recession may happen. it would be unfortunate. it's different than the u.s. defaulting on the debt. you know, we saw that back in august, 2011, we saw the downgrade of the credit rating. just by having the threat of not approving the debt ceiling increase and the possibility of default. it comes around again at the end of february, beginning of mar
. the president is cutting his vacation short to face the fiscal cliff. is he leaving hawaii for washington tonight. if lawmakers don't come up with a deal before the deadline your tax refund could be delayed by months. we are live in the washington bureau to explain more. >> reporter: brian the irs said without a deal as many as 100 million taxpayers may be forced to wait until march to file their tax returns. congress has to vote on the wealth tax and it needs to be adjusted for inflation. both partisay they would agree to it but it's all tied up in the fiscal cliff mess. tax filing season starts next week but the irs would put a hold on that for some. officials would wait for a deal in the new year instead of doing serious reprogramming to their tax system. filing would then be pushed back to march for millions. with refunds coming much later than usual. especially for those who plan on paying off credit card bills that often pile up after the holidays. now all of this could be avoided a deal before the deadline monday night but some long time lawmakers fear it won't happen, more on that
and maryland. president obama cutting his vacation short a comeback for the fiscal cliff tops. the senate is open for business and senate majority leader urging speaker of the house to pass the senate version. it keeps the taxes from going up on americans making less than $250,000 a year. speaker banner has already had problems trying to get the deal past to raise taxes on of americans making over $8 million a year. the $250,000 limit will not fly. >> sent this three authorization it goes right to the president that if we except the house bill and get it signed. if it goes past the first of the program goes down. the program is interrupted. this is important. it has the support of national security the attorney general air coulter and other national security officials who have made clear as to the importance of this. at this time following my remarks i would like to enter the letters into the record. >> here on the floor the senate it is getting back to work trying to get the house to attending. president obama just getting off of air force one right now. he has already made phone calls t
a deal to avoid the massive automatic tax hikes and spending cuts known as the fiscal cliff. >> president obama spent christmas day visiting with troops in hawaii. >> while back in washington uncertainty about the looming fiscal cliff continues. there has been to communication between republicans and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been work
of the program. he was introducing a bill to soften the landing if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. the calm act.thit it would allow omb to substitute sequester cuts. more than $100 billion in budget cuts across the board. that is something the new congress will have to deal with. less than 17 hours before the deadline. ellen is joining us from washington, d.c. caller: good morning. i did nothing speaker boehner wanted to cut a deal with the democrats anyway. all this stuff is around president bush. it's not all on obama. host: ok. thank you for the call. harry reid said this yesterday. [video clip] >> the republicans have taken the benefit cuts off the table. there is still significant distance between the two sides but negotiations continue. there is still time left to reach an agreement. host: those negotiations moved into the evening. the house coming back at 9:00 p.m. eastern for morning business. votes would happen sometime after 10:00 a.m. front-page of "the new york times." let me read a few sentences. host: that is the front page of "the new york times." good morning from
but the truth is i think the president is hoping to go over the fiscal cliff. he can enact tax increases, cut defense spending and blame it on the republicans. the problem is we have had harry reid and the senate democrats haven't passed a budget plan in three years and they're looking at just raising taxes. we need to seriously address the spending in this country and we haven't had that from the democrats. we have to have that for things to pass. really get this deficit under control. >> all right. so keith, that was a loud sigh that you just gave. >> you heard that? >> i think everybody at home just heard that. so you obviously do not agree with alice's assessment there. i want to show debbie wasserman-schultz's quote. no 48-notice on house votes just yet. the president has a lot to gain politically with the blame on republicans for letting all of the country go over the cliff and the fact that they seem to hold on with the death grip for millionaires in this country. >> the republicans will be blamed it seems according to the polls going over the fiscal cliff but the president is responsi
politicians are running out of time to avoid the budget crisis known as the fiscal cliff. every reed said democrats and republicans had to stop squabbling to have any chance at which an agreement by december 31st and higher taxes and spending cuts will automatically take effect. president obama has cut short his holiday to revive the talks. >> if we go over this cliff, the house of representative with four days left are not here with the speaker having told him that he will have 458 hours' notice. i cannot imagine their conscience out there wherever they are around the country and we are trying to get something done. >> why is the american economy teetering on the edge of the cliffs? these are some of the things that president obama is trying to prevent with the return to the lighthouse. an employment has fallen to a four year low and currently stands at 7.7%. no deal could mean 2.1 million jobs disappearing parent to it would equate to a contraction of 1.5% in the value of all goods and services america producers meaning less money to afraid with the rest of the world. as far as the repu
in hawaii and, yes, christmas brings us one day closer to possibly the fiscal cliff, the huge tax increases, spending cuts that could take effect in one week or so. brianna keeler is watching there in hawaii, joining us with the update. first of all, how is the president, how is the first family spending the holiday? >> presumably right now they are sleeping in, suzanne, because it is still very early here as you know. >> what time is it? >> we are expecting of course they'll have a christmas. let's see. 6:00 in the morning bright and early. we've been at it for a few hours. we expect them to have a nice christmas meal at the house they're renting. the white house chef is here. maybe we'll get details on what they are going to eat. there is nothing on the president's public schedule. he is frequently gone and visiting with troops in the past so we wouldn't be surprised if he did that again today. i will tell you that bo the dog is actually along for the ride here in hawaii and the white house released a video where bo just really kind of steals the show. let's look at a little of that. this
're going to cut the sizeia and scope of government, perhaps we should go over the fiscal cliff so people understand government spending is out of control and may start to ask the questions being asked at the f round table and kitchen tables ofam every family white christms sales are so low. they're saying how can i make a major purchases in this economye people are cutting back and want government to do the same thing but something else is playing into why you are seeing christmas sales go so low this christmas season. a lot believe if we are going to say happy holidays perhaps those people who say it is any other holiday should support the economy as a result they are not buying the gifts they need to buy. they are talking to their families about a other things tn gifts.e. eric: stay on this a little bit, if we do go over the fiscal cliff, texas will go up. going up for every income level across the board. but down the road, is that the only way we get our fiscal house back in order? >> we're back down to the law, this is only a fe if you shouldy for massive government is unfair to thos
on averting the fiscal cliff. the president and the first lady spent part of christmas visiting troops at the marine base in honolulu. the president will be back in d.c. tomorrow morning. lawmakers have less than a week to agree on now to avert cuts. >>> starbucks is hoping a few keywords will encourage republicans and democratses to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. this morning the ceo shulz asked all of his washington, d.c. employees to , come together. >> if you are looking to turn that ugly sweater -- to return that ugly sweater from aunt imagine, today may not be the best -- day. >>> good morning. more signs of recovery in the housing market numbers show home prices climbed in the 12 months through october by the most in more than two years more than 4% gain if you look on the month-to-month increase, san francisco coming in number five, las vegas had the biggest monthly gain. christmas is over, let the returns begin. if you received any gifts you don't want, you might want to wait a few days to return it. today is the worst days to do returns because the lines are longest,
that affect the fiscal cliff? host: more than four years? caller: does that affect our physical cliff? host: that is a larger issue of taxes and spending cuts. caller: thank you. host: bob on the independent line from florida. caller: nobody should worry about the fiscal cliff. asey have everybody's ira's hostage. ira will have to buy ies.sur they are not worried about the budget. everybody that has an ira basically it will have nothing because interest rates will go up so high on the treasury bills in the coming decade. be heldy's ira will hostage. i took money and i put it into gold. i did not pay any taxes on it. possession is 9/10 of the law. let them come and find it. every politician should not take a paycheck. they do not deserve it. they have been bringing our country down. host: in look at what happened 1st.ing jan. uary host: that will happen in january 1 if congress fails to reach a compromise, even a short-term compromise. dan on the phone from massachusetts. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to know how many millionaires there are in this country versus the num
. >>> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with next week's fiscal cliff looming large. he plans to return to washington tonight after spending the holiday in hawaii. kristen welker is traveling with the president. good morning to you. >> reporter: savannah, good morning to you. the first lady and first daughters will remain here and continue their hawaiian holiday. the president and first lady spent part of their christmas visiting with troops stationed here in hawaii, thanking them for their service before they sat down and enjoyed a tradit n traditional christmas dinner. the night before president obama called service members stationed overse overseas. when president obama returns to d.c., he and lawmakers will have just days to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. here is where everything stands. last week house speaker john boehner failed to get his own bill through the house. so now things are in the s senate's court. leaders there will have to come up with a compromise to avert the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect during the first of the year. president obam
the fiscal cliff or something similar to that. we need to cut taxes. it is important that we do both. i think republicans should be voting on raising taxes a little bit. they will be raising taxes on everybody. because we're coming out of some wars here, we really do not need to be raising our defense at all. that is all i like to see. host: this is richard. he is in garden grove, california. what do you think about the fiscal cliff negotiations? caller: i wish to come to an easy medium. he is going to us to give everyone an incentive. why are they cut it? adjusted 500,000? that is its. -- just a 500,000. that is it. is this is for businesses or for personal assets? people making income or is it just for businesses ta and. everyone is going to have to pay some kind of taxes. you will never explain the cost cutting military. we never understood that. the president has been trying to show the republicans as being the bad guys. both sides are spending in the past. everyone wants to blame. the reserves and the bank's new they're learning about money than they should. it is good for business. now
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the fiscal cliff as a group of democrats push for the extension of most of the bush-era tax cuts, cuts they say staunchly -- they opposed years ago. joining us now to talk about it, tony -- [inaudible] a republican political analyst and consultant and a national political correspondent for talk radio news service. michael is a democratic strategist, and he joins us as well. good to see you both. tony, look, the word we're getting is that harry reid is going to pass an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody under 250,000, extend unemployment benefits for two million folks. um, now, if that happens, it goes to the house, and the house will probably have to put it up. aren't republicans, your party, going to wish that they had passed plan b? >> absolutely, gregg. look, plan b really should have been our plan a, number one. number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millio
this all along, go off the fiscal cliff. >> i think that he sees a lot of cuts to the military, which the democrats have been after for a long time. and then he gets to do what he loves to do, which is blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see financial problems for our nation at the bottom of the cliff. the president was really interested in the level of the debt we have in this country, the $16 trillion, we would have had a budget pass the senate sometime in the last three years. he proposed a budget, none of the democrats even voted for it. >> juliet: remember, they're having a meeting in a few hours and with all the sniping going back and forth, particularly from janer and harry reid, they'll be in that little room together. it should be interesting. >> eric: brass sew makes a good point and i agree that president obama probably wanted to go over the cliff from the very beginning, but i don't agree where he said at the bottom of the fiscal cliff is something bad for america. it will be tough medicine to take, we've been talking about it, spending cuts to defense, no one
to head back to washington and jump-start the fiscal cliff negotiations with congress. talks fell apart before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointin
to the deadline if congress and the president are going to stop the nation from going over the fiscal cliff. without a deal, taxes are set to go up on about every american. >> reporter: talks continue but this morning, still no deal. republicans and democrats nee gobuated all weekend, with the hope of passing legislation that would protect most people from a massive tax hike, set to kick in type at midnight. our top priority is make sure taxes on middle class families don't go up to hurt the economy badly. >> reporter: optimism about a deal over the weekend, when the republican leader in the senate made an offer, that all ended when senate majority leader said he couldn't present a counter proposal, in a hail mary, he phoned for help. >> i placed a call to the vice president to see if he could jump start the negotiations on his side. i'm willing to get this done. i need a dance partner. >> reporter: white house officials say vice president biden is now playing a direct role in the talks. the two partys remain at odds over the automatic across the board cuts to government programs and defens
of the president. fox news confirming he will be cutting his vacation short to get back to work on the fiscal cliff. peter doocy has more. >> president obama will departed hawaii for washington, d.c. late tonight leaving his wife michelle and daughters sasha and malia behind. the latest guidance we have from white house is that the president will be back here in the nation's capital where it is presently 36 degrees sometime tomorrow morning. united states government is set to go off the fiscal cliff on new year's day. at this point we don't know if the president plans to return at the to hawaii if the tax hikes are avoided well in advance of the of the new year. he's there to talk to himself. john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are
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